| rindolf | TimToady: so BASIC was your first language? |
| TimToady | no, English was my first language. :) |
| rindolf | TimToady: I started with XT ROM BASIC, but I suppose it was something like Perl 5 was to Perl 4 for your BASIC. |
| rindolf | BASIC has greatly evolved since Dartmouth BASIC. |
| rindolf | TimToady: ah. |
| rindolf | TimToady: not Chomsky's Universal language? |
| TimToady | feh |
| diakopter | rindolf: what's the name of the Parrot implementation of Intercal? |
| Juerd | 21:04 <@TimToady> we have a test suite right now because of pugs |
| Juerd | Very, very important. |
| rindolf | diakopter: I don't know. |
| rindolf | Juerd: yes, very. |
| rindolf | Juerd: anyway, I expect that at every given time all tests will pass. |
| Juerd | Well, there are probably bad tests too :) |
| Juerd | Given the volume of the suite, and that pugs has never been able to even parse everything :0 |
| Juerd | :) |
| TimToady | testrot accounts for many of those :) |
| rindolf | TimToady: testrot... |
| rindolf | TimToady++ |
| rindolf | How long does it take Pugs to run the entire Pugs test suite? |
| TimToady | but a number of them were misunderstandings at the time |
| rindolf | Because Pugs is kinda slow. |
| diakopter | defudge should be renamed Passover... |
| TimToady | used to run on my old laptop in about 25 minutes |
| rindolf | TimToady: or cute bugs. |
| rindolf | I mean implementation details. |
| rindolf | TimToady: kinda long. |
| TimToady | audreyt's dual core used to run them in 10 minutes |
| TimToady | I haven't tried on my new laptop, since I haven't installed the lates ghc yet |
| TimToady | first make it run, then make it run right, then make it run fast |
| rindolf | TimToady: another problem with Pugs is that it kept requiring the latest ghc. |
| Juerd | Did pugs drive GHC development perhaps? :D |
| TimToady | shrug, you shouldn't pick on a software project when it's down |
| TimToady | Juerd: yes, I believe some of that happened too |
| rindolf | TimToady: "After Death - say holy." |
| rindolf | TimToady: it's a Hebrew phrase. |
| TimToady | Actually, I'm just about out of After Death--I've got a bottle of Mega Death now too. |
| TimToady | just had some on my potatoes, yum. |
| spinclad | sounds hot |
| TimToady | of the first six ingredients, five of them are hot. Red habanero pods, cayenne chilies, white vinegar, natural pepper flavor, ancho chilies, chipotle chilies, molasses, guava nectar, fresh ginger, salt, spices. |
| TimToady | 'bout 550,000 scovilles |
| TimToady | After Death is only about 500k |
| TimToady | Tabasco is only about 35k |
| spinclad | tabasco I’m calibrated on -- now i can (only) imagine |
| TimToady | so roughly 15 times hotter |
| spinclad | 'add 1/15 drop per 100 potatoes' |
| TimToady | I generally only use it about one "plop" at a time |
| TimToady | unless I really want a large endorphin kick |
| rindolf | TimToady: LOL. |
| spinclad | enjoy yr clear sinuses |
| rindolf | TimToady+=5 |
| rindolf | "After Death" |
| rindolf | Reminds me of that screensaver. |
| rindolf | "After Hours" |
| vixey | After Dark |
| vixey | with the flying toasters? |
| rindolf | vixey: yes, that's the one. |
| rindolf | Also had a nice Looney Tunes one. |
| rindolf | "I now proclaim this computer in the name of Mars!" |
| rindolf | (Marvin the Martian)++ |
| vixey | they were cool |
| rindolf | I recall something about wine being able to run Windows screensavers. |
| spinclad | "where's the kaboom? there was meant to be a case-shattering kaboom." |
| rindolf | XScreenSaver is a pre-Autoconf hell from what I understood. |