| mrout |
Who likes freedom? |
| mrout |
FREEDOM |
| rindolf |
mrout: freedom++ |
| Younos |
just give me my beer |
| rindolf |
Younos: heh. |
| rindolf |
No beer for you! |
| Younos |
aww :o( |
| mrout |
I’m in non-freedom mode atm actually, using
Windoze |
| mrout |
for teh gamez |
| rindolf |
mrout: OK. |
| mrout |
but when I restart into Linux I respect the
freedoms of myself and others |
| rindolf |
mrout: OK. |
| Younos |
you should respect it regardless of the
platform |
| rindolf |
mrout: maybe try reporting it as a bug in
WINE/etc. |
| rindolf |
mrout: the GNU project encourages FOSS developers
to port their software to non-free platforms. |
| rindolf |
Though there was a small backlash about it (at
least for Windows) a while ago. |
| alfplayer |
encourages? |
| mrout |
rindolf: I sure hope it does. if we can encourage
users to try FOSS software on non-free platforms, they might more
easily learn about FOSS and about how to protect their
freedoms |
| rindolf |
http://fc-solve.shlomifish.org/download.html - I
provide a Windows binary for this. :-) |
| mrout |
Many users don’t even know they can get software
that respects their freedoms. |
| rindolf |
alfplayer: well, don't know if encourage, but it
doesn't hold a stand against it. |
| rindolf |
alfplayer: and a lot of GNU software can be built
fine on Windows (And proprietary UNIXes). |
| alfplayer |
rindolf: that's very different imo |
| alfplayer |
rindolf: yes, like gcc and emacs |
| mrout |
btw is rms ever on here? He gave a talk at my
local university a few years ago, and I never got a chance to talk
to him. |
| rindolf |
http://www.shlomifish.org/humour/fortunes/show.cgi?id=should-perl-drop-sco-support
- also see this. |
| mrout |
lol |
| rindolf |
mrout: I don't think he uses IRC. |
| rindolf |
mrout: he also doesn't use a graphical web
browser. |
| rindolf |
mrout: though he does read the web sometimes. |
| mrout |
rindolf: i haven’t installed X yet, so neither do
I. haha |
| rindolf |
He commented on a few pages on my site. |
| rindolf |
When he visited Israel, I told RMS that I felt
making Freecell Solver Public Domain (now it's MIT/X11L) was
appropriate given its target audience, and he said he thought
making it GPLed would encourage more users of programs that used it
to make them FOSS. |
| rindolf |
He also said it was OK that freshmeat.net (now
freecode.com) did not release their backend as free software. |
| rindolf |
mrout: ah. |
| mrout |
freecode.com? |
| rindolf |
mrout: well, I think he doesn't even use links or
lynx or Emacs' www-mode. |
| rindolf |
mrout: yes. |
| rindolf |
mrout: they changed their name and domain. |
| mrout |
who are they? NEVER heard of them |
| rindolf |
mrout: http://freecode.com/ - it's a nice way to
discover some interesting software. |
| rindolf |
mrout: they are a web-directory for UNIX
software. |
| mrout |
do they host it? |
| rindolf |
mrout: no. |
| mrout |
quite unlike something like github, then? |
| rindolf |
mrout: just link to it. |
| mrout |
cool |
| mrout |
will try to remember that |
| rindolf |
mrout: also see
http://www.shlomifish.org/lecture/Freecell-Solver/slides/freshmeat_effect.html |
| rindolf |
mrout: not everything there is FOSS. |
| mtjm |
http://stallman.org/stallman-computing.html
explains his Web use |
| rindolf |
mrout: and not everything is there. |
| rindolf |
mrout: but I try to publicise most of my major
software there. |
| mtjm |
IRC would need a constant network access which is
difficult when travelling (and needs much mor e time than batch
mail writing) |
| rindolf |
Well, most of the software published there is
either niche or quite boring. |
| mrout |
rindolf: Freecell Solver on freecode is the first
result |
| rindolf |
mrout: for what? |
| mrout |
that google search |
| mrout |
I fail to see a problem |
| rindolf |
mrout: well, thing is there are other Freecell
solvers. |
| rindolf |
mrout: and what I said is that I clog the
search. |
| mrout |
Oh, I see what you mean |
| mrout |
that’s a good thing for you, though |
| rindolf |
mrout: lots of junk like
FreeBSD/Debian/Ubuntu/Mandriva/Mageia packages. |
| rindolf |
mrout: that's what I call the freshmeat
effect. |
| rindolf |
I get http://fc-solve.shlomifish.org/ as the first
hit. :-( |
| rindolf |
Damn bubbling. |
| rindolf |
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=freecell%20solver - here
(no bubbling) I get the wikipedia Freecell page as a first
hit. |
| mrout |
rindolf: bubbling? |
| rindolf |
mrout: http://dontbubble.us/ |
| mrout |
I get NZ results |
| mrout |
hahaha |
| rindolf |
mrout: NZ? |
| mrout |
rindolf: where are you from? |
| rindolf |
mrout: Israel. |
| mrout |
New Zealand. |
| rindolf |
mrout: but shlomifish.org is hosted in
hostgator.com . |
| rindolf |
I used to host it in a small Israeli hosting
provider but they were too unreliable. |
| mrout |
I asked, because i expected it to be US, and so
I’d say “I know what US stands for, but you don’t know what NZ
stands for? Shame on you.” |
| rindolf |
mrout: I know that .nz is New Zealand. |
| rindolf |
mrout: but didn't understand the initialism in the
context. |
| rindolf |
mrout: some Americans think .il is Illinois. |
| rindolf |
And .ca is California. |
| rindolf |
Well, there's also .la. |
| mrout |
ahh |
| rindolf |
And .tv. |
| mrout |
haha |
| mrout |
tv? that must be for tezdikistan. >.> |
| rindolf |
mrout: no. |
| rindolf |
mrout: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.tv |
| mrout |
joke |
| mrout |
that was a joke |
| mrout |
I know it’s not for television stuff lol |
| rindolf |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuvalu |
| rindolf |
mrout: OK. |
| rindolf |
.tk domains are free. |
| mrout |
yeah |
| mrout |
Woo tokelau |
| * rindolf |
wonders if there is .fs. |
| rindolf |
There should be a country called .if so I can
register shlom.if |
| rindolf |
Someone registered shlomifi.sh. ;-) |
| rindolf |
Not me, though. |
| rindolf |
https://www.google.com/search?q=.lf - no .lf
either. |
| rindolf |
We need more countries. |
| mrout |
I wish there was a .ut |
| mrout |
so I could get mro.ut |
| rindolf |
mrout: ah. |
| rindolf |
Well, I can register shlomif.name. |
| mrout |
I already have rout.co.nz (that’s my dad’s
actually) and rout.geek.nz (mine) |
| rindolf |
mrout: ah. |
| rindolf |
Are top-level .nz domains available? |
| rindolf |
like rout.nz |
| mrout |
you can’t get milesroutisawesome.nz, no |
| rindolf |
Ah. |
| mrout |
or rout.nz >.> |
| rindolf |
OK. |
| rindolf |
.il domains are kinda costly and they used to
require faxing. |
| rindolf |
And I don't feel my domains are particularly
Israeli-related. |
| mrout |
ahh |
| rindolf |
Well, I originally got shlomif.il.eu.org. |
| rindolf |
But its DNS was flaky. |
| mrout |
.eu.org? |
| rindolf |
So I ended up buying shlomifish.org |
| mrout |
what’s your actual name? |
| rindolf |
Now I also have shlomifish.com |
| rindolf |
mrout: Shlomi Fish. |
| mrout |
Ahh |
| rindolf |
mrout: eu.org is free DNS. |
| mrout |
? |
| rindolf |
But I guess you get what you pay for
sometimes. |
| rindolf |
mrout: it's not .eu (European union). |
| rindolf |
mrout: http://eu.org/ |
| mrout |
that site’s odd |
| mrout |
what’s wrong with .eu |
| mrout |
shit a brick, they want a separate ccTLD for
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Martin_(France) |
| rindolf |
mrout: nothing is wrong with .eu - it's just that
eu.org is something different. |
| rindolf |
eu.org predates .eu. |
| mrout |
ahh |
| mrout |
it annoys me that the US doesn’t use .us more |
| mrout |
and clutters .com |
| rindolf |
Well, there's also .gov, .net, .org... |
| rindolf |
.mil |
| rindolf |
.navy |
| mrout |
exactly |
| rindolf |
mrout: I also have http://shlom.in/ |
| mrout |
it’s pretty americo-centric |
| rindolf |
Could not get http://shlom.fi/ because my domain
registrar did not have it. |
| rindolf |
shlom.in is my own custom (and private) URL
shortener. |
| rindolf |
Some overzealous spam filters blocked it. |
| rindolf |
Ah, domains. |
| rindolf |
The bread and butter of Internet
conversations. |
| mrout |
lol |
| rindolf |
I know someone who has http://ali.as/ |
| rindolf |
Well, from the Internet. |
| rindolf |
And there's also cr.yp.to which is Dan
Bernstein. |
| rindolf |
DJB. |
| mrout |
domains, vim vs emacs and hello_there vs
helloThere. |
| mrout |
cr.yp.to is cool |
| rindolf |
mrout: and tabs vs. spaces. |
| mrout |
but hard to type |
| mrout |
eugh |
| mrout |
cr.yp.to is hard to type |
| mrout |
spaces, vim, hello_there or HelloThere, but never
helloThere. |
| rindolf |
Since I have http://perl-begin.org/ and want to
create a site for Vim beginners, I should get a good domain. |
| rindolf |
vim.perl-begin.org or vim.shlomifish.org does not
look good. |
| mrout |
vimschlomfish |
| mrout |
lol |
| mrout |
shlom |
| mrout |
vimshlomfish |
| mrout |
what about vim-begin.org? |
| rindolf |
mrout: maybe I'll get tech-begin.org |
| rindolf |
I think begin.org is already taken. |
| mrout |
yea |
| mrout |
by one of those shitty domain hoggers |
| rindolf |
Heh. begin.tel is available. \o/ |
| mrout |
i’d love mil.es |
| rindolf |
Not that I want it. |
| mrout |
begin.tel? |
| mrout |
begintel? |
| mrout |
$17/yr for mil.es |
| mrout |
YES FUCK YES |
| rindolf |
OK, I registered begin-site.org and
begin-site.com |
| rindolf |
On https://www.domainsite.com/ . |
| rindolf |
I figured most people won't "guess"
begin-site.net... ;-) |
| mrout |
nice |
| rindolf |
So I'll have http://vim.begin-site.com/ and
http://vim.begin-site.org/ |
| mrout |
what about rindolf.com |
| mrout |
begin-site seems a bit clunky |
| rindolf |
mrout: rindolf is only my IRC nickname. |
| mrout |
still |
| rindolf |
mrout: and I already have www.shlomifish.org |
| rindolf |
mrout: I don't see why most people will STFW for
"rindolf" or "shlomi fish" or whatever. |
| rindolf |
Most of the people come to my site using more
generic searches. |
| rindolf |
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=fountainhead%20parody -
first hit ! |
| mrout |
STFW? |
| rindolf |
mrout: search the fab web. |
| rindolf |
Like RTFM. |
| rindolf |
Using Google, Duck Duck go, Bing or whatever. |
| mrout |
fucking web, I assume |
| rindolf |
mrout: true. |
| rindolf |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Shlomif/Freecell_Solver - this
was deleted because it was not notable enough. F****king
deletionists. |
| mrout |
they deleted your user page? |
| rindolf |
mrout: no, only /wiki/Freecell_Solver |
| mrout |
oh |
| rindolf |
mrout: access the link - it's there. |
| rindolf |
Just not visible on default searches. |
| mrout |
“lacks references showing notability” you mean
apart from the fact it’s the top google result for Freecell Solver?
FUUUUU wikipedians |
| rindolf |
I restored it before it was deleted. |
| rindolf |
mrout:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baker%27s_Dozen_%28solitaire%29 - some
people on #wikipedia (or #wikipedia-en) told me this may not be
notable. |
| rindolf |
There are a zillion pages about it. |
| rindolf |
And Wikipedia covers almost any other Solitaire
variant. |
| mrout |
lol, fucking wikipedia |
| rindolf |
Yes. |
| mrout |
articles about every steeple in Italy, but not
about ever solitaire variant |
| mrout |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baker%27s_Dozen_%28solitaire%29#Solvers |
| rindolf |
mrout: also about football players. |
| mrout |
your article should be restored |
| rindolf |
mrout: yes, maybe. |
| mrout |
I’d almost be convinced to do it myself |
| rindolf |
mrout: are you a wikipedian? |
| mrout |
sort of |
| mrout |
I have an account |
| rindolf |
mrout: well, I added the [[Freecell Solver]]
link. |
| rindolf |
Hoping someone will fill it in. |
| rindolf |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FreeCell#Solvers -
there is a cursory mention of it there. |
| mrout |
mmm |
| rindolf |
mrout: this section was deleted previously because
it was not "Encyclopedic enough." |
| rindolf |
mrout: that Wikipedian had tons of complaints
against him on his user talk page. |
| rindolf |
mrout:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Christiansen - this used to be
about the Perl developer (and co-author of several books). |
| rindolf |
Now it's about an olympic athelete. |
| rindolf |
Well, I added that page, and people enhanced it,
but then it was deleted. :-( |
| mrout |
not even an olympic athelete |
| rindolf |
mrout: ah, yes, just world competition. |
| mrout |
didn’t even place |
| mrout |
compared to an author and developer of one of the
most popular programming languages |
| mrout |
:/ |
| rindolf |
Yes. |
| rindolf |
Oh well, Wikipedia. |
| rindolf |
The worst encyclopedia in the world except for all
others. |
| galex-713 |
? |
| mrout |
hahaha |
| mrout |
yyeah |
| * galex-713 |
slaps mrout |
| galex-713 |
Wikipedia is perfect! |
| * galex-713 |
hides |
| mrout |
hardly |