| ZetaNeta | i wonder, if one day, developers will lose the possibility to write code no one else can understand. |
| ZetaNeta | If CPUs will start running interpretable code |
| rindolf | ZetaNeta: you can always obfuscate code. |
| rindolf | ZetaNeta: nothing guarantees that a code will be readable. |
| ZetaNeta | yeah, that is why i wish people will lose the ability to write unreadable code |
| rindolf | ZetaNeta: and there's also https://github.com/kripken/emscripten which compiles from C/C++/ObjC/etc. to unreadable JS. |
| rindolf | ZetaNeta: how will you guarantee that? |
| ZetaNeta | I cant. Thats why i wish |
| rindolf | ZetaNeta: have you heard of the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halting_problem ? |
| rindolf | ZetaNeta: it may be impossible for a computer to do. |
| rindolf | ZetaNeta: if not for a human too. |
| rindolf | ZetaNeta: don't wish for the impossible. |
| rindolf | ZetaNeta: unless you'd also like to wish for pink flying unicorn ponies who drop candy. |
| ZetaNeta | I don’t like pink, unicorns, ponies, candy and dropping stuff. |
| rindolf | ZetaNeta: it's an idiom that means that you want something that can't easily be achieved. |
| rindolf | ZetaNeta: or something Utopian or unrealistic. |
| ZetaNeta | well... that is already way too offtopic |
| sea | Morning!!!!!!!! |
| * sea | appears and has cake! |
| * sea | distributes cake |
| [TheFlash] | maybe you meant a cross between a unicorn and a pony? |
| * rindolf | eats the free-as-in-speech cake. |
| rindolf | Also zen cake - no calories. |
| rindolf | [TheFlash]: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=pink%20flying%20unicorn%20ponies |
| rindolf | [TheFlash]: they exist in /My Little Pony/ - ♥ |
| sea | Those actually are pegasus ponies. |
| sea | Unicorn ponies don't fly. |
| sea | There are some unicorn pegasus ponies, though |
| sea | Like princess Luna |
| rindolf | sea: yes. |
| rindolf | sea: isn't Princess Celestia also a Unicorn Pegasus Pony? |
| rindolf | Well, this isn't #bronies |
| sea | Yeah, they're called an 'alicorn' officially now |
| rindolf | sea: ah. |
| sea | Also, starting with the last episode of season 3, Twilight Sparkle is an Alicorn too |
| rindolf | sea: I don't remember who she is. |
| rindolf | sea: http://mlp.wikia.com/wiki/Twilight_Sparkle - ah , I see. |
| rindolf | sea: yes, I know who she is (naturally). |
| rindolf | OK, on topic. |
| rindolf | ZetaNeta: it's probable that people (or software programs) will always be able to write other programs that other people will find hard to understand, so don't wish for it to happen. |
| rindolf | ZetaNeta: you might be able to find a device that will change the laws of logic, but I find it unlikely. |
| rindolf | Well, find or develop. |
| ZetaNeta | rindolf, Well. I have some ideas |
| rindolf | ZetaNeta: ideas? |
| ZetaNeta | In my understanding, there is no logic. |
| rindolf | ZetaNeta: what? |
| * ZetaNeta | don’t wanna talk about it |
| rindolf | ZetaNeta: you don't think there's logic? |
| pehjota | TIL that sea is a brony. They're everywhere! |
| rindolf | pehjota: heh. |
| * ZetaNeta | doesn’t like to mix software with philosophy, to avoid long conversations he anyway probably gonna lose |
| rindolf | ZetaNeta: well, programming is based on maths and logic. |
| ZetaNeta | rindolf, "Because you are so sure about it" |
| rindolf | ZetaNeta: what? |
| * ZetaNeta | doesn’t like to mix software with philosophy, to avoid long pointless conversations |
| sea | pehjota: What's TIL? |
| rindolf | sea: Today I learned. |
| pehjota | sea: Today I learned. |
| sea | Whoa.. |
| pehjota | Ha :) |
| sea | Haha, your nicks both have the same length |
| sea | so it looks like a duplicated line |
| rindolf | sea: jinx! |
| * sea | grabs everything made of wood and hides it |
| rindolf | ZetaNeta: anyway, the Halting Problem which is part of theoretical CS, and has an easy-to-explain informal proof, casts many doubts about a machine's (or a human's) ability to detect whether code for an arbitrary Turing complete VM is easy to understand or not, and so you might as well forget about it. |
| rindolf | <pehjota> TIL that sea is a brony. They're everywhere! ==> not sure how useful of a fact it is. |
| pehjota | rindolf: It was a tongue-in-cheek remark. :) |