| Trashlord | where did the term "vanilla software" come from? Why vanilla? |
| _kmh_ | Trashlord, like vanilla sex? |
| Trashlord | _kmh_: I didn't know that was a term |
| rindolf | Trashlord: vanilla means plain, raw, with no additions |
| rindolf | Trashlord: like vanilla icecream |
| Trashlord | rindolf: why not chocolate software then, like plain chocolate ice cream? |
| rindolf | Trashlord: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/vanilla |
| gwosix | what the fuck is "vanilla software" |
| _kmh_ | vanilla vs edgy/kinky/spicy/different from the norm |
| _kmh_ | be it software, sex or whatever |
| rindolf | Trashlord: chocolate has a more noticeable flavour |
| gwosix | does Microsoft office count as vanilla software? |
| Trashlord | rindolf: alright |
| gwosix | vanilla is like beige |
| rindolf | Trashlord: and colour |
| rindolf | gwosix: like vanilla js |
| _kmh_ | Java, C, python and alike are vanilla |
| InPhase | gwosix: Microsoft Office is more like an $8 bottle of asparagus water. |
| _kmh_ | brainfuck is not |
| IRCMonkey | Vanilla means plain ol'; nothing fancy. |
| Trashlord | rindolf: but vanilla ice cream is white |
| IRCMonkey | Sometimes means original version. |
| koollman | _kmh_: how do you attribute flavor ? :) |
| rindolf | _kmh_: what? |
| _kmh_ | Trashlord, white with a touch of yellow |
| Trashlord | OK |
| _kmh_ | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brainfuck |
| andrei-n | I noticed that to be a good programmer you have to be a good writer: you have to be able to write comments, tutorials, explanation, and documentation and be not ashamed to show it to other people. What is your opinion? |
| _kmh_ | lol |
| _kmh_ | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vanilla_software |
| _kmh_ | there is actually wikipedia entry for it |
| rindolf | andrei-n: hi |
| rindolf | andrei-n: http://blog.red-bean.com/sussman/?p=96 |
| _kmh_ | andrei-n, to be good programmer you gotta be good at everything :) |
| _kmh_ | the goose laying golden eggs |
| koollman | _kmh_: I mean, I know what vanilla means in this context. But how would the system-provided brainfuck be less vanilla than system provided Java ? :) |
| andrei-n | _kmh_, yeah, I even started copywork in order to improve concentration and memory... It's never enough. |
| koollman | (I do agree that brainfuck is esoteric) |
| koollman | _kmh_: I mean, on some Linux distributions it's easier to get brainfuck than oracle Java :) |
| IRCMonkey | Brainfuck is insane |
| Myr | _kmh_ : That would qualify you as a developer |
| tiggster79 | andrei-n: To be a good programmer first and foremost you have to be good at logical thinking and problem solving. The rest are just details. |
| Trashlord | to be a good programmer you have to be able to quit vim |
| tiggster79 | LOL |
| rindolf | Trashlord: heh |
| rindolf | lol |
| tiggster79 | oh yeah, and real programmers use vim :) |
| IRCMonkey | Winners never quit, quitters never win … |
| * rindolf | wins vim |
| rindolf | because i couldn't quit it |
| Trashlord | lol |
| andrei-n | tiggster79, I noticed that I'm not even able to understand the problems on spoj, leetcode and project-euler. That means I'm really bad at reading... So I have to improve this before even trying to become better at problem solving... |
| Myr | Vim is for the lazy, nano is where it's at |
| rindolf | Trashlord: :) |
| Trashlord | rindolf: :) |
| deniska | nano is for people who are too scared to use notepad.exe |
| rindolf | Myr: https://xkcd.com/378/ |
| tiggster79 | deniska: nano is for people who want to use the terminal, but are too afraid to use vim. |
| Myr | rindolf: you got me there, never could grasp butterfly |
| rindolf | Myr: heh |
| rindolf | Myr: use emacs then |
| rindolf | Myr: it has m-x butterfly |